Comments on: Art, bombs and user-created media. http://lucasmcdonnell.com/art-bombs-and-user-created-media/ / knowledge connects people. Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:43:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Stockport Framer http://lucasmcdonnell.com/art-bombs-and-user-created-media/comment-page-1/#comment-25670 Stockport Framer Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:35:17 +0000 http://www.lucasmcdonnell.com/art-bombs-and-user-created-media/#comment-25670 I don't think YouTube should take the video down, I think it's a warning that playing with such sensitive issues can cause a lot of trouble. It seems mad that they even let the exhibition go ahead though. I don’t think YouTube should take the video down, I think it’s a warning that playing with such sensitive issues can cause a lot of trouble. It seems mad that they even let the exhibition go ahead though.

]]> By: Lucas McDonnell http://lucasmcdonnell.com/art-bombs-and-user-created-media/comment-page-1/#comment-10621 Lucas McDonnell Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:49:54 +0000 http://www.lucasmcdonnell.com/art-bombs-and-user-created-media/#comment-10621 Thanks for your comment Suresh. I would argue that this young man committed a crime and should be held accountable for it, and receive a punishment that is no more or less than anyone else who committed a similar but less public crime. Despite his argument as to the artistic nature of his actions, I hope he will see that the money involved in dealing with the consequences of what he did was not his to spend. And I agree with you, it is the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, it's no laughing matter, and the artistic nature of the action is negligible to the point of ridiculousness. Thanks for your comment Suresh. I would argue that this young man committed a crime and should be held accountable for it, and receive a punishment that is no more or less than anyone else who committed a similar but less public crime.

Despite his argument as to the artistic nature of his actions, I hope he will see that the money involved in dealing with the consequences of what he did was not his to spend. And I agree with you, it is the equivalent of yelling “fire” in a crowded theater, it’s no laughing matter, and the artistic nature of the action is negligible to the point of ridiculousness.

]]> By: Suresh Madhavan http://lucasmcdonnell.com/art-bombs-and-user-created-media/comment-page-1/#comment-10456 Suresh Madhavan Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:47:24 +0000 http://www.lucasmcdonnell.com/art-bombs-and-user-created-media/#comment-10456 It seems to me that this stunt falls in the category of yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater. As a society we have accepted that this is not funny, it is dangerous, and it serves no purpose even if classified as art. These are limits of behavior that we place given the practical problems of a lot of people in a small place and whose safety we all share responsibility for. YouTube is just making Andy Warhol's prediction of our ability to achieve brief fame. They are creating the equivalent of a crowded theater by reaching a large population in an instance. We do not give up on the idea of a theater because some joker decides to play a prank like yelling "fire". Nor would we put a sound deadening agent in a theater so that someone yelling "fire" cannot be heard. We would lose the utility of the theater - and besides we would not hear it if there was a fire and someone legitimately warned the others. So, YouTube would have a very hard time if it was expected to make such judgment calls, which I am sure happens with regularity. I would expect that YouTube would want to classify it under a classification like "stupid pranks" so it is not given any more dignity that it deserves. I would not fault them for removing it, or for keeping it. I would expect them not to edit comments that it might raise - expecting that the wisdom of the crowds will prevail Interesting problem that you raise - time and space contracting to create new opportunities, and risks suresh It seems to me that this stunt falls in the category of yelling “Fire” in a crowded theater. As a society we have accepted that this is not funny, it is dangerous, and it serves no purpose even if classified as art. These are limits of behavior that we place given the practical problems of a lot of people in a small place and whose safety we all share responsibility for.

YouTube is just making Andy Warhol’s prediction of our ability to achieve brief fame. They are creating the equivalent of a crowded theater by reaching a large population in an instance. We do not give up on the idea of a theater because some joker decides to play a prank like yelling “fire”. Nor would we put a sound deadening agent in a theater so that someone yelling “fire” cannot be heard. We would lose the utility of the theater – and besides we would not hear it if there was a fire and someone legitimately warned the others.

So, YouTube would have a very hard time if it was expected to make such judgment calls, which I am sure happens with regularity. I would expect that YouTube would want to classify it under a classification like “stupid pranks” so it is not given any more dignity that it deserves. I would not fault them for removing it, or for keeping it. I would expect them not to edit comments that it might raise – expecting that the wisdom of the crowds will prevail

Interesting problem that you raise – time and space contracting to create new opportunities, and risks

suresh

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